"Yay! All of you bigoted Christians just lost!!!! Screw you
guys, love is always gonna win over hate and bigotry!"
"What's happened to my America? This country was founded by
Christians, and now it's become a pagan nation!!!!"
Yeah...that's basically been my Facebook newsfeed the past few
days, and I'm sure it's been yours as well. Between profile pics of rainbows
raging against profile pics of crosses, I'm watching bombardments from both
sides as the culture wars continue with a major victory for the pro-LGBT side.
First off, I want to lay some necessary points of fact down first,
just so you know where I am coming from in writing this article, as well as
this article's purpose:
1) This is not an article about whether or not the Supreme Court
has the right to do what it did. I lean libertarian, so my position is a bit
more nuanced than your average conservative Christian's.
2) I am a person who has actually studied the question of gay
marriage and Christianity, and extensively. I have a number of books sitting on
my shelf and lying within my Kindle on the subject, from multiple angles.
3) I am a person who actually tries to avoid this and related
topics, for multiple reasons. It's too emotional for many people (and I'm not
using that term in a derogatory way), and parts of it are incredibly
complicated. I'm only writing an article now because I see such vitriol and
hatred on many sides with this issue.
4) I'm not a person who enjoys doing some watered down, "I
won't take sides on an issue, I just think we should love everyone" crap.
Of course love, but for God's-sake state your position if you are going to talk
or write about it! It's one of the most annoying things about this generation;
how unwilling we are to actually say things of substance when we discuss these
serious matters. I have a position, and if I'm going to write an article on it,
I won't shy away from that position.
5) While marriage is something that has existed before the Church,
in our Western context it is something that has historically been done by the
Church, and the State has slowly overseen it in a more active way.
6) I am committed to searching for truth, no matter where it
leads.
Now that that's all cleared up...
Calm Freakin' Down
First off, both sides need to stop with the absolutely horrendous
hatred thrown at the others. Let's deal with that. And yes, I genuinely do mean
both sides. I've disagreed with my LGBT friends and my conservative Christian
friends on this issue, and have been attacked by both parties.
On the conservative Christian side, I've been accused of going to
Hell for my position on the subject. I've seen conservative Christians treat
gay people horribly, acting as though they were sub-human. Whether you consider
homosexuality a sin or not, you should never consider that person sub-human. I
know Christian friends who are and were so afraid to come out, because of how
hateful many people have been towards this issue. It needs to stop. Seriously.
One person in particular comes to my mind who, rather than thinking
he could approach his parents about this complicated issue, was so scared that
he decided to hide it from them instead, supposing he could change himself.
Whenever you hide something, that something only grows. He ended up going into
activities that any responsible person, whether LGBT or straight, would find
sexually dangerous and degrading to oneself and others. Is that what his
parents and church community wanted? I doubt it.
Think that's bad, LGBT friends? I've had a gay man argue, rather
viciously, against me for holding to my position, later friend me on Facebook,
then in the middle of the night start posting claims that I was hitting on him
and trying to seduce him and was a closet gay. All because I respectfully
disagreed with him. I've seen people like Tony Campolo--Tony freakin'
Campolo!!!!--accused of being a bigot. Seriously? SERIOUSLY?
Recently, Campolo came out in favor of gay marriage within the
Church. Prior to that, he was fine with gay marriage, just not within the
Church.
He was fine with gay marriage, he just didn't think the Church
should perform gay marriages.
...that is a position that requires vitriolic hatred and screams
of bigotry? Seriously? This is the guy I'm talking about (and this is a
video from years before he decided to approve of gay marriages within the
Church):
Yes, ladies and gentlemen: that guy apparently deserves to be
given the same derogatory names as the Westboro Baptists.
Congratulations: you've made the term "bigot" utterly
useless. And ironically, your claims of bigotry only reveal that you yourself
are one and have no idea what that word even means.
So both sides need to seriously calm down. There are rational
voices on both sides, certainly.
And if you can't see rational, thoughtful people on the opposing
side, the above paragraphs are about you.
Now, onto my position:
Concerning the State
I couldn't care less what the State does.
We Christians have a fundamental problem within the Church today,
and that problem is this:
We think the secular government of the United States is our
friend, our ally, our tool.
I'm sorry, but no. The federal government is not our ally. Take
this very issue, for instance: why is marriage something to be licenced by the
State? It's a Sacrament; our Sacrament. Yet we thought that we
could get the approval of Caesar, and our greed for tax and other benefits
pushed us to slowly allow marriage to be considered first and foremost a
State-sanctioned institution, rather than a Sacrament of the Church.
You have no idea how many times I've spoken with Christians who
treat marriage first and foremost as though the State is the one that decides
how it works. I've even had family members joke after a wedding that the couple
couldn't go to their honeymoon yet because they hadn't signed the certificate.
Yes, it was a joke, but the joke is based upon the idea that the most
fundamental fact concerning the marriage is that they have signed a piece of
paper given to them by the State.
A marriage certified by the State should make as much sense to us
as a Baptism certified by the State.
And thank God we've not tried to do with Baptism or the Eucharist
what we've done with marriage. Can you imagine the State forcing the Church to
recognize pagan baptisms? Or forcing the Roman Catholic Church to allow the
Eucharist for everyone?
Let's treat this as a lesson in what happens when we go to bed
with the State.
So bottom line: I literally couldn't care less what the State
does. If they want to enact gay marriage, let them. Oh, it will reinforce bad
culture within Christianity? Rome had worse. Rome had killing people for sport
legalized. Somehow the Church magically survived. My bet is that the Spirit
will protect and lead His Church.
Now for the Religious Part:
I have studied the subject with an open mind, reading books like
Matthew Vines' "God and the Gay Christian" and Michael Brown's ,
"Can you Be Gay and Christian?". I've listened to lectures and
debates and talks about the issues at hand, here.
I don't do so merely out of abstract boredom. I have a LOT of LGBT friends, many (but certainly not all) of whom are of the opinion that Christianity either is or should be in support of gay marriage.
I don't do so merely out of abstract boredom. I have a LOT of LGBT friends, many (but certainly not all) of whom are of the opinion that Christianity either is or should be in support of gay marriage.
After my studies on this issue, I can't as a Christian support the
Faith blessing same-sex unions.
Why? Oh, I might write a detailed article on that in the future.
But suffice it to say that no amount of "shellfish!" or "two
cloths woven together!" exclamations are going to refute my
position.
Because those are really, REALLY poor "arguments".
(Yes, yes; the necessary "Lutheran Satire" video. Sue me.)
Because those are really, REALLY poor "arguments".
(Yes, yes; the necessary "Lutheran Satire" video. Sue me.)
For now, just read Matthew 19:1-12.
Understand that Jesus is saying this.
Understand that Jesus is saying this.
Is Jesus God in the Flesh?
Could Jesus see into the hearts and minds of men and women?
Then how could Jesus say something like this, knowing that there
are people who are only attracted to the same sex hearing these words (whether
at the moment they were spoken or later in the writings), if Jesus is fine with
blessing same-sex unions with the Sacrament of marriage?
Whatever your position on the matter, understand that the
Levitical Code or even St. Paul's words on the subject are not the chief
reasons for it being a union the Church cannot bless.
Because Jesus did speak on the nature of marriage, and He defined it as only a man and a woman for life.
Because Jesus did speak on the nature of marriage, and He defined it as only a man and a woman for life.
Now, whatever the State wants to do, I don't care.
My concern is not the State.
My concern is the Church.
And so I couldn't care less that marriages are now blessed by the
State. The State is not my religion. The State is not my Kingdom. The State is
not my God.
Same sex blessings done by the State? Sure. That's fine.
Same sex blessings done by the Church? That is something that I
cannot support Scripturally, theologically, or historically.
And I've read and listened to the best arguments for the claim
that Scripture supports same-sex marriage. They don't work, the arguments. They
require such forced ambiguity of the text that I am amazed how some of the
advocates can make such statements with confidence.
If you think that makes me a bigot, understand that what you are saying is that you cannot tolerate a position on this issue that is any different from your own.
Realize that, then look up the definition of "bigot".
If you think that makes me a bigot, understand that what you are saying is that you cannot tolerate a position on this issue that is any different from your own.
Realize that, then look up the definition of "bigot".
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